Where do you live?
Leichhardt, inner city suburb of Sydney,
Australia, also known as Little Italy, the main street Norton St is
renowned for all the Italian Restaurants & cafes hence the
coffee is the best in Sydney.
What are you respective mediums?
Writing... and Music/Poetry
How did you meet?
In a South American Bar (in Sydney) called La
Vina. Where we drank Sangria & danced Salsa all night.
Afterwards discovering we lived a few streets away and worked just
around the corner from each other.
You have two children - do you see signs of your
children following in your artistic footsteps? And if so – would
you encourage them or try and steer them towards a more
conventional career path?
Our children have always enjoyed
drawing and music, Deaglan plays the Double Bass & trumpet and
Dylan has started Cello as well as dabbling in drums, singing and
he’s a born comedian/actor. Both use various computer programs
& compose music as well as write songs. Deaglan has already
composed a CD - Classical Myths with music he wrote and he is
possibly going to put it on his mythical beasts website he is
building. Technology is so amazing these days that they can do
things on their home computer that we could only dream about doing
at University. I think it's important to expose children to all
sorts of things, museums, galleries, gardens, and nature as much as
possible and let them work out what it is that moves them. We are
lucky that the local school is very open, they have an Artist in
residence program, and as well as the Band program they also have a
string group program that was set up by parents who play in
orchestras. Anthony organized a Buddhist Scripture class that has
become hugely popular as well. It all helps create in the children
an awareness that all sorts of possibilities exist. I think both
Anthony & I were steered to do more conventional careers and it
has made following our creative impulses a lot harder.
Conventional career path? Absolutely NOT, I
would never encourage that!
What role did art play in your upbringing? Was it something you
were surrounded by or did you seek it out?
My mother was European and believed in museums
and art galleries and learning about culture and literature. Books
were always a major passion and reading was always something very
much encouraged. My background was a bit strange as my parents were
European migrants and my brother is autistic, at a time when that
was little understood, so books were at times my main
friends. My environment/upbringing
precluded an easy access to art; I always had to work hard to seek
it out. I did start learning guitar from the age of 7, mainly
because we didn’t have a piano. My school didn’t offer Music as a
subject for senior study, which made it hard to pursue a degree in
Music later. It wasn't until I left home that I was really able to
explore art.
Have you ever collaborated together? Do you want to?
Well we have collaborated twice now and our
creative results seem to be turning out nicely, it's a work in
progress and we will eventually lose all control of it as they grow
and assert themselves in ways we probably can’t imagine. But
seriously, it’s always a possibility we certainly are involved in
discussing all sorts of things from Philosophy to Religion and
history/sociology and bouncing ideas and thoughts off each other I
think helps our creativity.
Not yet, but wouldn't rule out the
possibility. Of course, we are each other's critics, as I proofread
Alice's writing, and she has first criticism of any of my
songs.
Alice/Anthony where do you each find your respective
inspiration?
Inspiration is such an intangible thing, it
sort of floats around and then out of the blue a comment or a
phrase of a song or a visual moment will suddenly start a whole
process and a story will begin to evolve, often not bearing much
resemblance to what kicked it off in the first place.
You don't find inspiration. If you wait,
inspiration finds you, usually in the most unlikely places. I read
copious amounts of fiction and non-fiction, and listen to a lot of
styles of music; rock/pop, classical, folk, blues, reggae, jazz,
world music. I watch a lot of different documentaries on religion,
history, science and art. Inspiration is more working very hard to
mix everything you see and hear and feel and something new comes
out when you have done enough mixing.
What’s your worst ‘starving artist’ story?
Most of my twenties! Having to busk on the
street to pay for food. Getting paid $10 for playing a gig and
spending $20 on beer. I’ve tried to
avoid starving by nearly always having some sort of day job but
there is always hunger if not for food then for time to work
creatively.
How do you deal with creative blocks?
Keep working, they will always crumble in the
end. Then I can sculpt my creative blocks into something new and
beautiful. I think its important to go
with the flow, too often we try to make things happen, blocks are
often about changing things in your life or in your perspective so
you can let creativity in again. Taking a break and doing something
new or spending time outside your zone so you become more open to
different ways of seeing I find helps. And nothing beats just
sitting down and starting even if you have no idea where you’re
going.
What was your first 'success' as an artist?
Most of my twenties! Probably about 12 years ago when I was shortlisted in a
Literary competition and that story was published in an Anthology.
And I got paid! Then life and children sort of intervened for a
while. There was a story comp at the local library and I decided to
write something while Dylan (a baby at that point) was asleep and
it won which was such a jolt in the arm and really inspired me to
start writing again. But any time a story is accepted for
publication it’s a real buzz.
I was really struck by a passage in 'Gargoyles
on the Edge' - Religion has no monopoly on evil. Evil is. Evil
does. It's just out there, like the air, like the toxins. You can't
see it but you feel the consequences. Do you think art can be used
to combat evil?
I think the shared experience of art –
listening to music or a song, connecting with a visual artwork or
reading something /watching a play that allows empathy into a
totally different way of thinking all unite people. When we have
that connection we become united in that shared experience. Evil is
always divisive, it feeds on hatred and perceived differences; it’s
a way of thinking that is taught. People aren’t born evil they are
created by the influences around them that perpetuate hatred and
intolerance. Art is the only thing that
can combat evil. Art inspires people to rise above the evil that
surrounds them. Art was used to combat the evil of the Catholic
Church during the Renaissance in various and insidious ways while
the Church was trying to suppress learning and knowledge. Spanish
artists such as Goya and Picasso both used their art as a response
to the despotism their country was experiencing. Of course it was
music that was used to combat the Vietnam War more effectively than
any protest march. Music has always taken the message of peace to
the trenches.
Anthony – what drew you to music? And Alice –
what drew you to writing?
As soon as I could talk I was singing along to
the radio. I started playing guitar at about 7 years old and
haven't stopped since. As an only child, music was my only
sibling.
I was always a Book Addict and my mind just
naturally daydreams stories so it was an inevitable path. I
actually envy songwriters who can say so much in three minutes
(that’s why I married one I was hoping to absorb some of his
technique). I tend to go the long road, the scenic route but I like
the way writing can create a place and time that seems so real and
characters that don’t exist in the real sense but while you’re
reading them they become alive and real.
Have you had a moment where you’ve had an
impact as an artist? When you felt like your art made a
difference?
I've had wonderful moments busking where
someone has been extremely affected by a song. Sometimes that's
nicer than having thousands of people responding to you, to make a
personal difference to at least one. Once, a girl was so happy that
I had played Heroes while she was rushing to College for an exam.
She had been in so much of a hurry that morning, she hadn’t had
time to play the song at home, which was her usual preparation for
a test, and when she heard me playing, she was overjoyed and
believed she was going to pass the exam because I had played her
lucky song. Knowing that someone has
been moved by a story is amazing. I had a story published in a
magazine for Mental Health Week, about a mother of an Autistic
child and her thoughts as she dealt with the differences between
this child and her others, and to hear really positive feedback
from mothers dealing with this situation in real life was so
rewarding.
What are the pros/cons of being married to a
fellow artist?
Pros: Never having to apologize for
disappearing for hours to work. Cons: Access to the
computer. Sharing the ups and downs and
knowing they get it without any need for explanation.
With two artists and two young children in the
house – how and where do you set up your work areas?
Wherever we can and whoever gets there first!
Our entire house is one big construction zone. I convinced Alice
that we needed another computer recently so we’re not fighting over
trying to both work at the same time. I also work Saturdays every
second month, which gives me a day off during the week when no
one’s around, and Alice takes one day off a week from her work as
well. It saved my sanity having that one
day a week, its made a huge difference and means I usually have
something on the go and can spend twenty minutes when I get home
even adding to it as well. I don’t need much space (my library does
though) and it’s very much a case as well of what housework can I
leave for another day, week and write instead.
What drives you as an artist?
There’s
a little voice inside my head that impels me to play. If I don’t,
I’m very morose. So it’s a bit like therapy and a bit like
exorcising demons. It’s also the most perfect way I can express
myself. I heard someone say recently that music is a wonderful way
to express yourself because you can argue with an idea, but you
can’t argue with a song. Although I’m sure I know people who could
argue against that! I’ve never really imagined doing anything else
with my life because an inner craving has led me inexorably down a
path towards art. I can be waylaid sometimes, but never for too
long.
I’m so
much happier since I’ve been able to write regularly. It probably
keeps me sane and it’s this outlet for all the stories and dreams
that accumulate in my head. Its also very playful and experimental
as you think about situations, places, and eras even and then
create them so you get to live in them for a little while and be
someone outside yourself. I read somewhere that all the characters
that a writer creates are really parts of themselves and it’s a
strange feeling when you realize that as you are writing away and
its often the least obvious one that you most identify with, some
dark or shadowy part of yourself that finally sees the light of
day. My ultimate dream is to write full time so bit by bit I’m
working to get there.
Now just some quick ones...
city or country? Both
Dylan or Jagger? We
named our second son Dylan so say no more.
Too hot or too cold? Prefer the heat to the cold
Rather be deaf or blind? Blind (drunk) Neither
Favorite holiday? All of them
Favorite season? All of them
Glass half-empty or half-full?
Half full
Whiskey or wheatgrass? Whiskey, but only Irish.
Halo or horns? Horns I have a fallen halo that
I wear as a necklace.
Mazzaratti or Winnebago? Before kids, Mazza, after kids, Winnebago
The kids would only let us have a Mazza
(actually they would prefer a Lamborghini Gallardo or Ferrari F430
Spider) they seem to have inherited an expensive car
gene.
Early bird or night owl? Night owls
MTV or CNN? ABC
(Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Cook or take-out? Home cooking
Pub or club? Pub
Fear of failure or fear of success?
Fear of failing to succeed